Wednesday, October 19, 2016

Ancestry says I'm Related. Am I?

Randy Seaver at Genea-Musings and DearMyrtle have both discussed Ancestry.com's new mobile app - We're Related.

The website states:
Find the fame in the fam. 
Are you related to someone famous or one of your closest friends? We’re Related can show you the surprising, significant, or boast-worthy connections in your tree. Your coworker could be your cousin. Or your cousin could be an icon.
As Randy suggested, it certainly sounds at first like they've resurrected their old One World Tree, which I wrote much about in past years. One World Tree did claim that Chaucer was my 18th Great Grandfather, but unfortunately I was able to disprove the relationship.

Of course I downloaded the app to see who they found.

1) You don't sign in with your Ancestry account. You don't need one. You sign in with your Facebook account. If you don't have an Ancestry account, by checking who you've indicated on Facebook relationships as parents, siblings, cousins, etc, it probably tries to find you in their public trees. I'm unsure how successful they are, because naturally, they quickly figured out my Ancestry account userid, and I checked that they were correct.

2) I then selected one of my trees to use to find famous relatives, and once I did that, it stated that it was searching all of their Public Trees. I think their old One World Tree was at least partially based on their Public Tree database, but I also think there were other trees involved.

Who did they find?

First: They didn't find Chaucer. Nor did they find any descendants of my ancestor, Thomas Stoughton. Stoughton is in my public tree, so I am somewhat surprised that none of my famous Stoughton cousins are yet in their database. (e.g. FDR, Grant, Romney, Palin, Kerry) Maybe these relatives will turn up later.




Lady Gaga is my 10th Cousin? Cool! It says our shared ancestor is a Thomas Mapes, born in 1628. Apparently, his daughter, Mary Mapes, my ancestor, was born in 1638. Hmm. This is reminiscent of One World Tree. Maybe both of these years of birth are estimates, and Thomas really is the father of Mary. Or, maybe not. How common is/was the Mapes surname? Perhaps, with a little bit of research, I might discover she isn't my 10th cousin, but 11th, or 12th.



Britney Spears and Justin Bieber?! This doesn't really excite me, but perhaps it will excite some in my family. It also appears Britney and Justin are cousins.

It's important to note that the John Smith in question is not the Mayflower passenger. The Mayflower landed in 1620, and this John Smith was born in 1614. I believe it's Rev. John Smith of Barnstable

Am I really a descendant?

I don't have parents for Mary Pitney in my database.

Is Susannah, Samuel and John Smith accurate? Perhaps. Definitely worth researching. Smith is a much more common surname than Mapes.



For Matt Damon to be confirmed as my 9th cousin 1x removed, I'd need to confirm Abigail Clark's father, grandfather, and great-grandfather.

Finally, the only individual they found for whom the shared ancestor is currently in my databsase:


Not Bad. And our shared ancestor is a Captain (though likely not a pirate.) Of course, I don't know if Depp's ancestry is correct.

Perhaps the best part of the app (like One World Tree) is that it provides suggestions for research.

Another feature of the app, which does sound intriguing, is you can get together with friends who have the app, press a button, and see if anyone within 500 feet is related to you.

That could be great fun at genealogy conferences, or at genealogical society meetings.

Update 10/20: Just realized that if I can confirm that Mary Pitney is the daughter of Susanna Smith, according to William Addams Reitwiesner (whose research I trust), I am descended from John Smith of Barnstable, and furthermore, I'm cousins with President Obama.

Am I Prescient?

Back in 2007 I asked the question

What to expect when your favorite genealogical conference merges with a local SF convention.

I missed an opportunity then to look extremely prescient, but I didn't miss it in 2012, when I updated the list.
3) Media Guest of Honor: LeVar Burton - (Geordie LaForge on ST:TNG; Kunta Kinte on Alex Haley's Roots)
LeVar Burton will be Keynote Speaker at RootsTech 2017

Unfortunately, I don't think I will be able to make it.

Monday, October 17, 2016

Fossils and Genealogy

Today's webcomic from XKCD


Just like fossil evidence might give scientists of the future an incomplete picture of spiders, genealogists have to remember to ask ourselves what's missing, when looking at documents we find in archives. There could be important information about our ancestors (such as spider webs) that hasn't been preserved.

Saturday, October 15, 2016

Weekly Genealogy Picks and Calendar

Highlights from news stories and blog posts I have read in the past week that deal with my overlapping interests in Genealogy, History, Heritage, and Technology.
Upcoming holidays - religious and secular, national and international - for the next two weeks
  • October 16
    • Sukkot Oct 16-23 (Jewish) [Begins at sunset]
    • World Food Day (UN)
  • October 17
    • International Day for the Eradication of Poverty (UN)
    • Boss's Day (US/Canada)
  • October 18
    • St. Luke, Apostle and Evangelist (Christian)
    • Persons Day (Canada)
  • October 20
    • Birth of the Báb (Baha'i)
    • Installation of Scriptures as Guru Granth (Sikh)
    • World Statistics Day (UN)
  • October 21
    • Trafalgar Day (UK)
  • October 23
    • Shemini Atzeret (Jewish) [Begins at Sunset]
    • Mole Day (Geek) [Celebrated at 6:02]
  • October 24
    • Simchat Torah (Jewish) [Begins at Sunset]
    • United Nations Day (UN)
    • World Development Information Day (UN)
  • October 27
    • World Day for Audiovisual Heritage (UN)
  • October 30
    • Diwali - Deepavali (Hindu/Sikh/Jain)
  • October 31
    • All Hallows Eve/Halloween (Christian)
    • Reformation Day (Protestant Christian)
    • New Year (Jain)
    • World Cities Day (UN)

Monday, October 10, 2016

Amanuensis Monday: Samuel and Rose Newmark's 59th Wedding Anniversary

Amanuensis: A person employed to write what another dictates or to copy what has been written by another.

I continue my project to transcribe family letters, journals, newspaper articles, audiotapes, and other historical artifacts. Not only do the documents contain genealogical information, the words breathe life into kin - some I never met - others I see a time in their life before I knew them.

Below I transcribe a newspaper article from the St. Louis Star and Times mentioning my great great grandparents, Samuel and Rose Newmark.

St. Louis Star and Times 
Dec 13, 1939, page 27

'Round the Town with Regan

...When Mr. and Mrs. Samuel Newmark, of 1364 Hodiamont avenue, staged a fifty-ninth anniversary party at their home last Sunday they were one week ahead of themselves, advises their son, "Buddy," who declares the wedding celebration was pushed ahead that it might include out-of-town relatives who were in the city last week-end. The actual date falls on next Sunday, he states, when a second edition of anniversary merriment will be presented...

Notes:

1. This article was found in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch archives.  I have no official record of marriage from Poland of my second great grandparents. This is the only indication I have seen of the date. This article places it on December 17, 1880.

2. "Buddy" (Israel David), Sam and Rose's youngest child, would have been 36 in 1939.

3. The reason behind observing a 59th wedding anniversary with a huge family gathering may have been an expectation that there wouldn't be a 60th.

It appears a month earlier, in November, Samuel had begun selling off his tailoring equipment.

November 12, 1939.
St. Louis Post Dispatch


In June the reason is specifically stated.

June 2, 1940.
St. Louis Post Dispatch


On July 20, 1940, Samuel died from cancer of the liver and stomach. Age 78.

July 28, 1940.
St. Louis Post Dispatch


Saturday, October 8, 2016

Weekly Genealogy Picks and Calendar

Highlights from news stories and blog posts I have read in the past week that deal with my overlapping interests in Genealogy, History, Heritage, and Technology.


Upcoming holidays - religious and secular, national and international - for the next two weeks
  • October 9
    • National Day of Commemorating the Holocaust (Romania)
    • Beginning of National Fire Prevention Week (US/Canada)
  • October 10
    • Thanksgiving (Canada)
  • October 11
    • Dasara (Hindu)
    • Ashura (Islam) [Begins at sunset]
    • Yom Kippur (Jewish) [Begins at sunset]
    • Old Michaelmas Day (Celtic)
    • National Coming Out Day (US/UK/Switzerland)
    • General Pulaski Memorial Day (US)
    • International Day of the Girl Child (UN)
  • October 12
    • Columbus Day (US)
  • October 13
    • International Day for Natural Disaster Reduction (UN)
  • October 15
    • International Day of Rural Women (UN)
  • October 16
    • Sukkot Oct 16-23 (Jewish) [Begins at sunset]
    • World Food Day (UN)
  • October 17
    • International Day for the Eradication of Poverty (UN)
    • Boss's Day (US/Canada)
  • October 18
    • St. Luke, Apostle and Evangelist (Christian)
    • Persons Day (Canada)
  • October 20
    • Birth of the Báb (Baha'i)
    • Installation of Scriptures as Guru Granth (Sikh)
    • World Statistics Day (UN)
  • October 21
    • Trafalgar Day (UK)

Monday, October 3, 2016

Amanuensis Monday: Myrtle Vanevery Deutsch and The Seekers

Amanuensis: A person employed to write what another dictates or to copy what has been written by another.

I continue my project to transcribe family letters, journals, newspaper articles, audiotapes, and other historical artifacts. Not only do the documents contain genealogical information, the words breathe life into kin - some I never met - others I see a time in their life before I knew them.

Below I transcribe a newspaper article from the St. Louis Star and Times mentioning my grandmother, Myrtle Vanevery Deutsch (1900-1951).

The St. Louis Star and Times
January 24, 1940, p. 21

The Seekers Club

"The Literature of the Old South" will be the subject of study at the meeting of The Seekers Club, tomorrow morning at the home of Mrs. C.B. Hamilton, 7148 Dartmouth road. Mrs. Martin L. Deutsch will review "In Old Virginia," by Thomas Nelson Page. Mrs. Harry Hughes will give "Col Carter of Cartersville," by F. Hopkinson Smith.

Notes:

1. This article was found in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch archives. I haven't found much information about The Seekers Club, though there are several articles describing various book review meetings, all on different themes, as well as other social gatherings. This is the only clipping I've found in which my grandmother is mentioned, so it's unclear for how long she was a member.

2) My grandfather's middle initial was 'J', but I have found incorrect middle initials to be a common newspaper error. There was only one Martin Deutsch in the St. Louis area.

Saturday, October 1, 2016

Weekly Calendar

Highlights from news stories and blog posts I have read in the past week that deal with my overlapping interests in Genealogy, History, Heritage, and Technology.

Weekly Picks is taking a 1-week vacation.

Upcoming holidays - religious and secular, national and international - for the next two weeks
    • October 1
      • Navaratri Oct 1-10 (Hindu)
      • Muharram - New Year (Islam) (starts at sunset)
      • International Day of Older Persons (UN)
    • October 2
      • International Day of Non-Violence (UN)
      • Rosh HaShanah - New Year (Jewish) (starts at sunset)
    • October 3
      • German Unity Day (Germany)
    • October 4
      • St. Francis Day (Catholic)
      • Beginning of World Space Week (UN) (Oct 4-10)
    • October 5
      • World Teacher's Day (UN)
    • October 6
      • German American Day (US)
    • October 9
      • National Day of Commemorating the Holocaust (Romania)
      • Beginning of National Fire Prevention Week (US/Canada)
    • October 10
      • Thanksgiving (Canada)
    • October 11
      • Dasara (Hindu)
      • Ashura (Islam) [Begins at sunset]
      • Yom Kippur (Jewish) [Begins at sunset]
      • Old Michaelmas Day (Celtic)
      • National Coming Out Day (US/UK/Switzerland)
      • General Pulaski Memorial Day (US)
      • International Day of the Girl Child (UN)
    • October 12
      • Columbus Day (US)
    • October 13
      • International Day for Natural Disaster Reduction (UN)

    Monday, September 26, 2016

    Amanuensis Monday: Myrtle Vanevery and Delta Sigma Sorority

    Amanuensis: A person employed to write what another dictates or to copy what has been written by another.

    I continue my project to transcribe family letters, journals, newspaper articles, audiotapes, and other historical artifacts. Not only do the documents contain genealogical information, the words breathe life into kin - some I never met - others I see a time in their life before I knew them.

    Below I transcribe a couple newspaper articles from the St. Louis Star and Times mentioning my grandmother, Myrtle Vanevery Deutsch (1900-1951).

    St. Louis Star and Times, June 26, 1933, p. 6.

    DELTA SIGMA OFFICERS 

    Miss Florence E. Slatery, 5879 Delor street (left), as national president, today opened the annual convention of the Delta Sigma Sorority at the Coronado Hotel. Above (right), is Mrs. David Campbell, 5927 Kingsbury avenue, national treasurer, and below is Miss Myrtle Van Every, chairman of the committee in charge of a bridge luncheon to be given tomorrow afternoon at the Glen Echo Country Club in honor of visiting delegates. The Delta Sigma is a national philanthropic organization. More than 200 delegates and local members are attending the convention, which will continue with business sessions and social entertainment until Thursday evening.
    St. Louis Star and Times, Sept 13, 1933, p. 14

    Sorority Has Rush Tea

    Missouri Alpha Chapter, Delta Sigma Sorority, began its fall rush season Saturday with a tea at the home of Miss Florence Slatery, 5879 Delor street.

    In the receiving line were: Miss Esther Linquist, national secretary of the organization, and Miss Myrtle Van Every, president of the local chapter. Chapter officers presided at the tea table, decorated in pink and lavender, sorority colors.

    Invitations were issue to the following rushes: Misses Dorothy Burscheid, Naomi Burton, Inez Green, Mildred Johnson, Terrye Kuntzsch, Evelyn Leatherbury, Melba Proctor, Marle Townsend, Lillian Woodruff and Mrs. Richard Hauk.


    Notes:

    1. Both of these articles were found in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch archives There are actually four newspapers in the collection: St. Louis Post-Dispatch (1874-2016), St. Louis Star and Times (1910-1950), St. Louis News (1978),  St. Louis Times (1978-1979). When the archives were first released earlier this year, the Star and Times articles weren't searchable.

    2) I'd seen references to her activity in the Delta Sigma sorority previously, but this is the first article that mentioned she was President of the local chapter. And this is also the first article that identifies Missouri as the Alpha Chapter.

    Saturday, September 24, 2016

    Weekly Genealogy Picks and Calendar

    Highlights from news stories and blog posts I have read in the past week that deal with my overlapping interests in Genealogy, History, Heritage, and Technology.
    • September 25
      • Start of Banned Books Week (US)
    • September 26
      • European Day of Languages (EU)
    • September 27
      • World Tourism Day (UN)
    • September 29
      • Meskel (Ethiopian Orthodox/Eritrean Orthodox)
      • Michaelmas (Christian)
    • September 30
      • International Translation Day (International Federation of Translators)
    • October 1
      • Navaratri Oct 1-10 (Hindu)
      • Muharram - New Year (Islam) (starts at sunset)
      • International Day of Older Persons (UN)
    • October 2
      • International Day of Non-Violence (UN)
      • Rosh HaShanah - New Year (Jewish) (starts at sunset)
    • October 3
      • German Unity Day (Germany)
    • October 4
      • St. Francis Day (Catholic)
      • Beginning of World Space Week (UN) (Oct 4-10)
    • October 5
      • World Teacher's Day (UN)
    • October 6
      • German American Day (US)
    • October 9
      • National Day of Commemorating the Holocaust (Romania)

    Wednesday, September 21, 2016

    George Washington Did Have Children. Two of them.

    I have heard it repeated countless times by trustworthy genealogists that George Washington had no children. Today I found out that is untrue. After marrying Martha Dandridge Custis, he adopted two of her grandchildren from her first marriage.

    A child by blood is not more of  a child than a child by law.

    If I interpret the above link - Organizations Acknowledge George Washington's Biracial Family Tree - correctly, it is new information, or at least confirmed rumor, that Washington's adopted son had children with slaves. However, it isn't new information that the adopted son had children through marriage.

    George Washington Parke Custis married Mary Fitzhugh in 1804, and their child, Mary Anna Randolph Custis, married Robert E Lee. Here's a chart of their descendants for three generations.

    I first learned of this news story at: ExtremeGenes

    Saturday, September 17, 2016

    Weekly Genealogy Picks and Calendar

    Highlights from news stories and blog posts I have read in the past week that deal with my overlapping interests in Genealogy, History, Heritage, and Technology.
    Upcoming holidays - religious and secular, national and international - for the next two weeks
    • September 18
      • National HIV/AIDS and Aging Awareness Day (US)
    • September 19
      • International Talk Like a Pirate Day (Geek)
    • September 21
      • International Day of Peace (United Nations)
    • September 22
      • New Years Day (French Republican Calendar)
      • Equinox (Wicca/Pagan)
      • Hobbit Day (Geek)
    • September 26
      • European Day of Languages (EU)
    • September 27
      • World Tourism Day (UN)
    • September 29
      • Meskel (Ethiopian Orthodox/Eritrean Orthodox)
      • Michaelmas (Christian)
    • September 30
      • International Translation Day (International Federation of Translators)
    • October 1
      • Navaratri Oct 1-10 (Hindu)
      • Muharram - New Year (Islam) (starts at sunset)
      • International Day of Older Persons (UN)
    • October 2
      • International Day of Non-Violence (UN)

    Thursday, September 15, 2016

    Be extra careful with geographical names

    Just received a comment on an old post correcting an error I made several years ago.

    I recorded a residence as "Houston, Texas" when the census record is for Houston County, Texas. The city of Houston is in Harris County. The county is about 100 miles north of the city. This is also a reminder that recording both City and County whenever possible is important.

    I retrieved the census record in my early research and have never re-viewed it. I hope I wouldn't make that mistake today.

    Wednesday, September 14, 2016

    Updates to Family History Documents

    I updated the Family History Documents page, adding a couple of new discoveries.

    1) Mary Blackadar Piersol's book, Records of the Van Every Family; United Empire Loyalists (1947) is now available online. The copy that was scanned was a copy that the owner had handwritten a few notes, including additional names.

    2) Sixty Years in Southern California (1853-1913), containing the reminiscences of Harris Newmark (1916) is also available online. [It's unclear if I am related to this family, however, a few individuals are mentioned in this work who were briefly in St. Louis, but left before my ancestors arrived.]

    3) I updated the link to an article by Gary Boyd Roberts on Notable Descendants of the Immigrant Stoughton Siblings of Massachusetts. (I've updated this link a few times. The New England Historic Genealogical Society seems to have a habit of reorganizing their website.)

    Pelion Van Every - Genealogy in the Comics

    I wonder how I am related to the fictional character, Pelion Van Every, from the classic comic strip, "The Heart of Juliet Jones." The below strip appeared on November 28, 1961. [Source: St. Louis Post Dispatch Archives]

    I like how this comic suggests not all family stories are accurate.

    It's impossible to know where the cartoonist came up with the surname Van Every. He may have known someone with the surname, or have borrowed it from the famous historical novelist and Hollywood screenwriter, Dale Van Every.

    The character Pelion Van Every appears to have only been a part of the strip between November 1961 and February 1962. Juliet Jones is researching the history of the fictional town of Devon, and seeking descendants of co-founders Pelion and Dundee. She ultimately introduces Pelion Van Every to Dundee Greer. And, well, I don't want to spoil what happens next.

    Saturday, September 10, 2016

    Weekly Picks and Calendar

    Highlights from news stories and blog posts I have read in the past week that deal with my overlapping interests in Genealogy, History, Heritage, and Technology.
    Upcoming holidays - religious and secular, national and international - for the next two weeks
    • September 10
      • Waqf al Arafa - Hajj Day (Islam)
      • World Suicide Prevention Day (World Health Organization)
    • September 11
      • Start of Eid al Adha - Sept 11-14 (Islam)
      • Auditor's Day (Church of Scientology)
      • Grandparents Day (US/Canada)
      • National Day of Service (US)
    • September 12
      • Saragarhi Day (Sikhism)
    • September 14
      • Elevation of the Life Giving Cross (Orthodox)
    • September 15
      • International Day of Democracy (United Nations)
    • September 16
      • National POW/MIA Recognition Day (US)
      • International Day for the Preservation of the Ozone Layer (United Nations)
      • Constitution Day (US)
    • September 18
      • National HIV/AIDS and Aging Awareness Day (US)
    • September 19
      • International Talk Like a Pirate Day (Geek)
    • September 21
      • International Day of Peace (United Nations)
    • September 22
      • New Years Day (French Republican Calendar)
      • Equinox (Wicca/Pagan)
      • Hobbit Day (Geek)

    Sunday, September 4, 2016

    Labor Day 2016

    Happy Labor Day

    As you light up your barbecue and enjoy your day off from work (those who have the day off) - take some part of the day to consider the advancements we have made in workers' rights over the last century - Many of us may have ancestors who worked in the coal mines or sweatshops.

    Also consider in what ways the struggles aren't over.

    Here's a playlist of songs which may help.



    A Pict Song - Rudyard Kipling (1917)

    Rome never looks where she treads,
    Always her heavy hooves fall,
    On our stomachs, our hearts or our heads;
    And Rome never heeds when we bawl.
    Her sentries pass on—that is all,
    And we gather behind them in hordes,
    And plot to reconquer the Wall,
    With only our tongues for our swords.

    We are the Little Folk—we !
    Too little to love or to hate.
    Leave us alone and you'll see
    How we can drag down the Great!
    We are the worm in the wood !
    We are the rot at the root!
    We are the germ in the blood !
    We are the thorn in the foot !

    Mistletoe killing an oak—
    Rats gnawing cables in two—
    Moths making holes in a cloak—
    How they must love what they do!
    Yes,—and we Little Folk too,
    We are as busy as they—
    Working our works out of view—
    Watch, and you'll see it some day!

    No indeed ! We are not strong,
    But we know Peoples that are.
    Yes, and we'll guide them along,
    To smash and destroy you in War!
    We shall be slaves just the same ?
    Yes, we have always been slaves;
    But you—you will die of the shame,
    And then we shall dance on your graves.

    We are the Little Folk, we ! etc.

    Saturday, September 3, 2016

    Weekly Genealogy Picks and Calendar

    Highlights from news stories and blog posts I have read in the past week that deal with my overlapping interests in Genealogy, History, Heritage, and Technology.

    Upcoming holidays - religious and secular, national and international - for the next two weeks
    • September 4
      • Immigrant's Day (Argentina)
    • September 5
      • Labor Day (US)
      • International Day of Charity (United Nations)
    • September 6
      • Start of Paryushana Parava - Sept 6-15 (Jain)
    • September 8
      • Nativity of Virgin Mary (Christian)
      • International Literacy Day (United Nations)
    • September 9
      • Day of the Victims of Holocaust and Racial Violence (Slovakia)
      • Children's Day (Costa Rica)
    • September 10
      • Waqf al Arafa - Hajj Day (Islam)
      • World Suicide Prevention Day (World Health Organization)
    • September 11
      • Start of Eid al Adha - Sept 11-14 (Islam)
      • Auditor's Day (Church of Scientology)
      • Grandparents Day (US & Canada)
      • National Day of Service (US)
    • September 12
      • Saragarhi Day (Sikhism)
    • September 14
      • Elevation of the Life Giving Cross (Orthodox)
    • September 15
      • International Day of Democracy (United Nations)
    • September 16
      • National POW/MIA Recognition Day (US)
      • International Day for the Preservation of the Ozone Layer (United Nations)
      • Constitution Day (US)
    • September 18
      • National HIV/AIDS and Aging Awareness Day (US)

    Friday, September 2, 2016

    Poem: The Genetic and Synthetic

    The below poem of mine was entered into the 2016 International Society of Family History Writers and Editors Excellence-in-Writing competition and was awarded second-place in its category.

    I've added a few footnotes for the references.

    The Genetic and Synthetic

    I research my roots:
    The nucleotides of life
    and the synthesis
    of ancestral experience
    make me whole.

    If she hadn’t left
    her Texas home at age 20;1
    If he hadn’t fled
    the Russian pogroms;2
    These words wouldn’t be written.

    Rural Transylvania, 1910.
    A gun fired:
    One child maimed;
    One child entered
    a depression-fueled starvation
    he never exited;
    One child, my maternal grandfather,
    stood witness.3

    Philippines, 1945.
    A gun fired:
    One soldier cleaning his rifle;
    One soldier entered
    a hospital he never exited;
    His brother, my paternal grandfather,
    stood Kaddish.4

    Neither event changed my DNA,
    but both influenced how I was raised,
    who I became.

    1. My maternal grandmother, Myrtle Vanevery Deutsch
    2. My paternal 2nd great grandfathers, Moshe Leyb Cruvant, Morris Blatt, and Selig Dudelczak could all be referenced here, with a little flexibility on the term, Russian, to include Lithuania, Poland, and Volhynia, respectively.
    3. More details can be read here.
    4. More details can be read here.

    Tuesday, August 30, 2016

    Finished?!

    Every Family Historian will at some point interact with someone who declares
    "Oh, I finished researching my family history."
    We'll stare at them, confused. Finished?

    It's very confusing from a mathematical perspective. Two parents, four grandparents, eight great grandparents. It keeps building. 4096 10th great grandparents. I know a handful of my 10th great grandparents, but not even double digits. Sure, there is undoubtedly some pedigree collapse, but I still have to identify the ancestors each time, so there are 4096 slots to be filled in that generation regardless of how many names get repeated.

    And even if at some point I have all 4096 identified, there are 8192 11th great grandparents. And then 16,384 12th great grandparents. How can anyone finish?

    And here I am only addressing one's ancestors. Family trees don't only go backwards in time. There's also the research of siblings, and descendants.

    So, no, don't tell me you finished. Maybe you stopped. Maybe you gave up. Maybe you are satisfied with what you have found. (I guess that is possible) But, no, you didn't finish. You left the rest of the research for someone else to accomplish. (Please tell me you took good notes, and cited all your sources. Sigh.)